Potnez, on 28 December 2011 - 04:13 PM, said:
Shit... I wish I wasn't born french with this "your english sucks"-curse.
Maybe then I could clearly write down how much I agree with you.
Anyway, you're gonna have to content yourself with the following: Bless your post
Merci Boucoup. That's all I've got. Thank you.
Your English is way better than my french, cause I slept thru french class
Coco Converse, on 29 December 2011 - 05:34 AM, said:
Additionally, as I am quoting Candy O from other threads, that people whom twititioned, retweeting, badgering, etc. got exactly what they asked for when they were demanding a live stream of the Mars 300... except, they forgot to mention one vital, key word... FREE! With that, indubitably the band took advantage of the idea, and charged fifteen dollars for a streaming of the show, including backstage footage and all.
yep. It was interesting to watch, from my perspective, how many people then bitched about the cost of MARS300 VyRT compared to the much larger group of people who fawned all over the band with things like "thank you, I cannot afford it BUT I will find the money to buy a vyrt ticket even if I don't eat for a week" and shit.
Anyone notice in the latest transmission where they said something about mtvunplugged vyrt "those who tweeted for it, you know who you are" or something like that. See, they are catering to those who WANT. If the WANT is doable at a profit, they engage and deliver at a price.
MyThoughtsNotYours, on 29 December 2011 - 06:19 AM, said:
I really don't want to get involved in the bitch fest about the band selling out, but I do want to say that IMO I don't think they are in it for just the money. I think that they do still care about the music and the fans, but if they can get rich from it, why not. Unless I know what they were thinking and who is really making the decisions, I will hold off on making any judgements.
bitch fest? I see no bitch fest here. Seems to be some level headed people giving their opinions, some leaning one way, some the other and some kinda in the middle. This is a rather tame conversation actually. Who knew it could happen? :>
Quiet Chaos, on 29 December 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:
Miss Candy O is right.. we have a conversation.. thank you, take over from France
VyRt.. is that even right? <--- that there? Fuck I can't be fucked to find out.. but yeah..that thing.. I think the intention was good..but as they say... the road to hell is paved with good intentions...No, that does not mean I think Mars is paving us a road to hell, but you know.
I think Candy O said it best ( best egg.. if you ever wanna give up that painting/artist stuff you do, you have a new profitable career in writing. Oh yes, you do ).. so ditto what she said.
I have no problem with them trying to capitalize on opportunities... I just wonder when it becomes too much? I would never pay for a Golden Ticket, a VyRt, an over-priced item on Ebay or an item illegally sold by someone trying to make money on Mars copyright. But that's just me. (but on the other hand, I know damn well I'd pay for stuff others wouldn't dream of.. so there's that..not Mars stuff, other stuff.. so yeah )
So, they first try it with the #300 show.. and that sells.. then they try the Unplugged thing and by golly, that sells too.. what's next? That's what I wonder. When does it stop? Do they start to charge for posting privileges at this forum? ( they wouldn't be the first ) .. I just wonder when enough is enough and when would 'some folks' say 'enough' ?
Like that awesome Kevin Costner movie says.. "If you build it , they will come....".. is it the same here?... "If you offer it, they will pay? " ??
I honestly don't know what to think. I would love to think this is all EMI's fault, and that once the 'bill' is paid, things will change.. but I can't know that. I know, either way, they still need to make money though, and that all this is just a business..Who knows really what may come. I just know, I still like them. I still love the music. And yes, I'm willing to hold on a bit more and hope for better things to come.
yes, thank you French Invasion. I like a good conversation.
and thank you Quiet Chaos. Writing was my other mistress and for years I tried to decide if I was a visual artist or a writer, among other things, and finally had to settle on one cause I only have so much time. Got a real job to pay the bills... security is important to me. *nod*
You laid out some interesting points up there. Amen to the "would never pay for..." cause yeah, me too. But there are people who are willing to do so. Some cause they have the cash and so wtf why not treat yourself, some in order to "prove" how big a fan they are OMG RT ME I JUST BOUGHT XYZ and some... I have no idea why the remainder do it. But they do. And it's bank for the band. I don't fault the band for collecting some cash, I really don't.
I just... I know it's changed some perceptions for me. The marketing, the products, the way things like this are handled now. Less magic, more reality, cause I can see it all. Maybe I preferred it when it was more low key so it didn't seem so INYOURFACE to buy stuff aside from a concert ticket and maybe a CD or shirt at the merch stand. But the new breed, they want to buy stuff and more stuff and DEMAND the right to do so, so INYOURFACE makes sense. And again, it's okay. Who doesn't want to make money doing what they love? And if you can pocket some income from side products of that, and the majority of your fans dig it, then go for it. Right?
I'm just babbling now. Trying to keep up with mars marketing ideas to tweak for my own use. I kinda feel exhausted.