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Is Global Warming a hoax based on bad science?

#1 User is offline   Scorpio Rising 

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 11:01 PM

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What do you think? Discuss...

Sorry ! I fixed the link. It's quite an interesting read.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 04:27 AM

Global Warming Isn't a hoax
(nuff said) ph34r.gif

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 09:44 AM

Bad link but it says "Fox News" which answers the question.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 11:53 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtXc_yhz65I





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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Dickson @ Mar 3 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


mellow.gif whats all that about Andrew Dickson?

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:13 PM

QUOTE (find-ourselves-lost @ Mar 3 2009, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mellow.gif whats all that about Andrew Dickson?


Everyone needs something random to brighten their day! wink.gif

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:15 PM

It prolly is a hoax. I'm not bothered either way.
But if I had to vote, I'd say yeah. The government are making way too much money from it, and I have yet to be shown evidence that couldn't be explained by something else.
Mind you, I haven't looked too much into it, so my vote probably has no value. Oh well.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:17 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Dickson @ Mar 3 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everyone needs something random to brighten their day! wink.gif

Aww, and now with all that randomness my day just seems that much brighter smile.gif
And jackandsally is right, its a Bad link that dosent work.... ph34r.gif

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:20 PM

do you mean the one I commented on her page or this one.
This one works on my computer. but the other thing jackandsally has to type into the URL bar.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Dickson @ Mar 3 2009, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do you mean the one I commented on her page or this one.
This one works on my computer. but the other thing jackandsally has to type into the URL bar.

Hey what do you know... it works! *Yay*

.... are you talking to me??

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:27 PM

Sort of blink.gif ....I was just saying i put one on jackandsally's page that they have to type in the URL bar.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Dickson @ Mar 3 2009, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sort of blink.gif ....I was just saying i put one on jackandsally's page that they have to type in the URL bar.

Oh...
Anyway, i just read the link,

"Global Warming. It is the hoax. It is bad science. It is a high jacking of public policy. It is no joke. It is the greatest scam in history," Coleman wrote.

I cant believe the crap that comes out that dude's mouth!
Is he really THAT stupid!

Global Warming is NOT a hoax! Its real and happening right now!

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE (find-ourselves-lost @ Mar 3 2009, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Global Warming is NOT a hoax! Its real and happening right now!

Ok. Not saying I know for definate it isn't, but...prove it. I want to know your reasoning.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:37 PM

Yes global warming is hoax. It's made by the same people who brought you..... rainbows!

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (Elvira @ Mar 3 2009, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes global warming is hoax. It's made by the same people who brought you..... rainbows!

I KNEW IT ohmy.gif

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE (pasiphae9 @ Mar 3 2009, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok. Not saying I know for definate it isn't, but...prove it. I want to know your reasoning.

Because, we are buggering up the Ozone layer with all the carbon dioxide form our cars and from industrial things
Look at this:



There is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere then their was 40 years ago, because of all the crap we are putting in the atmosphere.
and because of all that it is causing Global Warming.
and look at the weather now, their wasn't fires or hurricanes this bad years and years ago!

But im not good at reasoning and explaining things... unsure.gif


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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (find-ourselves-lost @ Mar 3 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because, we are buggering up the Ozone layer with all the carbon dioxide form our cars and from industrial things
Look at this:



There is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere then their was 40 years ago, because of all the crap we are putting in the atmosphere.
and because of all that it is causing Global Warming.
and look at the weather now, their wasn't fires or hurricanes this bad years and years ago!

But im not good at reasoning and explaining things... unsure.gif

The weather has a number of explanations for why its buggering up. Some say its the climate change that happens every 200 years. Some say its Planet Nibiru coming closer and messing with the magnetic poles of our planet. And some say its global warming.

And the graph...I'm sure that around 1960 it would already have been pretty high...with the industrial revolution and such...so I don't know about the accuracy of that graph.

But even if its accurate, when water is heated it releases CO2, right? I think so, anyway. If the oceans are warming up due to natural climate change that happens ever 200 years, then there would be more CO2, naturally.

Mind you, I'm no expert. Just trying to get an idea smile.gif
And I know us humans are fucking up the planet with extinction of species and deforestation and basically being the cuntish mammals we are, but I'm not sold on the CO2 thing.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:09 PM

But cars and other things give out high levels of CO2

so if there is a natural climate change that happens every 200 years, then we are making it happen faster... right?

anyway, your much better at reasoning than me...

(maybe i shouldn't have used that corny graph, but i can't explain anything so i thought that might...) biggrin.gif

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE (Elvira @ Mar 3 2009, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes global warming is hoax. It's made by the same people who brought you..... rainbows!

OMFG. What ooze (water) are we pittin ginto the air (water) to make (prismatic) rainbows? FUCKING HELL! We're all going to die from that.

The phrase global warming refers to the documented historical warming of the Earth's surface based upon worldwide temperature records that have been maintained by humans since the 1880s.
The empirical FACT is that yes, the world has warmed. The dispute is upon WHY.

I say we err on the side of right. As in, we as people do what we can to make sure it's not our behaviors fucking things up. If nature pulls our planet out form under us.. so be it. But if its a bunch of very rich fucking assholes who are turnign profit instead of taking responsibility for the wealth and power they wield... I want keelhauling, then draw and quartering to happen. Seriously.
I'll probably have a chat with Lucifer about that at some point. wink.gif

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE (find-ourselves-lost @ Mar 3 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But cars and other things give out high levels of CO2

so if there is a natural climate change that happens every 200 years, then we are making it happen faster... right?

anyway, your much better at reasoning than me...

(maybe i shouldn't have used that corny graph, but i can't explain anything so i thought that might...) biggrin.gif

Good point. But is the climate change necessarily a bad thing if it happens anyway?
And I've heard (don't know if its true) that the amount of CO2 given out by cars and things like that is tiny compared to amounts given out naturally by the planet, and so wouldn't affect such a large organism like Earth. I don't actually know the ratio though, so that could be bullshit.

And nawwww. The graph was ok, and so was your reasoning. smile.gif


I just don't trust the way the government are impressing how bad global warming is and taxing us for it, and not actually giving us solid proof its happening us doing it (just read grrlis post and agree). Its fishy.

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