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Aug 17 2008, 07:36 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 264 Joined: 12-April 01 Member No.: 327 |
To our Friends and Fans,
Despite rumors to the contrary, 30 Seconds to Mars is NOT calling it quits. We are incredibly happy, healthy and very much together here, in Los Angeles, recording our new record. Besides this ridiculously overblown lawsuit (courtesy of Virgin/EMI), we are having one of the most inspiring, wonderful and exciting times that we've experienced to date. (More on that later...) Beyond this distraction, we are so incredibly grateful to all of you around the world that have supported us so passionately. We would never consider stopping this just yet. These past few phenomenal years have been beyond imaginable and we owe every single bit of it to you. Thank you all for that! So, as you may have heard we are being sued by our former record company for the ridiculously oversized, totally unrealistic and pretty silly (but slightly clever) sum of $30,000,000. Insane? Yea that's what we said too. A little history... We had been signed to our record contract for 9 years. Basically, under California law, where we live and signed our deal, one cannot be bound to a contract for more than 7 years. This is widely known by all the record companies and has been for years. In fact, so aware of it are they that they desperately try to make deals outside of California whenever possible. It is a law that protects people from lengthy, unfair, career-spanning contracts. This law also gave us the legal right to explore other possible opportunities. Yes we have been sued by EMI. But NOT for failing to deliver music or for 'quitting'. We have been sued by the corporation quite simply because roughly 45 days ago we exercised our legal right to terminate our old, out of date contract, which, according to the law is null and void. We terminated for a number of reasons, which we won't go into here (we'd rather not air any dirty laundry) but basically our representatives could not get EMI to agree to make a fair and reasonable deal. A few things to note... If you think the fact that we have sold in excess of 2 million records and have never been paid a penny is pretty unbelievable, well, so do we. And the fact that EMI informed us that not only aren't they going to pay us AT ALL but that we are still 1.4 million dollars in debt to them is even crazier. That the next record we make will be used to pay off that old supposed debt just makes you start wondering what is going on. Shouldn't a record company be able to turn a profit from selling that many records? Or, at the very least, break even? We think so. That, and other issues, like the new regime at EMI firing most of the people we know and love, wanting to place advertisements on our website, EMI owning 100 percent of the masters of our record...forever, and basically having a revolving door of regimes at the company made it easy to not want to continue as is. As the result of this takeover - and the firing of over 2000 employees - we have lost many of the people that were near and dear to us at Virgin/EMI and crucial to the success of 30 Seconds to Mars. A few of the great ones are still there, but it is hardly the same company we have known. After more than 5 regime changes in 9 years you'd think we would be used to the inconsistency, but the team that took the journey together for A Beautiful Lie was a very very special group of people and it's a huge loss that so many of them are gone. (Quick fact: There is not a single employee at Virgin records who was working at the company when we signed.) FYI Virgin/EMI was not required to make this lawsuit public or to list such an egregiously and stupendously large amount of mullah. In fact, they were not required to set any price even close to this. We did not want to take this public, but we felt it best to explain our point of view to you, our friends and fans, in hope that you can better understand our point of view. We would always do our best to avoid a fight, but sometimes it's important to stand up for what you believe in. We hope that by doing what's right we can help to change things for the better, for ourselves and possibly others. P.S. We will always remain grateful to the people at Virgin/EMI who were so integral to our success. And we hope that, above all, we can find a resolution to this in as civil and kind a way as possible. There are certainly more important things out there in the world to spend time and energy on. To be continued... Jared Leto 30 Seconds to Mars |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:42 PM
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...because Glyph Rings are Serious Business ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,490 Joined: 12-January 07 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 359,534 |
Thanks for clearing things up. Glad to hear you're working on the new record!
Maybe people will stop |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:42 PM
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Lilybelle Lufflecakes...#validbaby ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18,657 Joined: 20-October 05 From: Various places in Ontario, Canada. Member No.: 349,733 |
Wow, wasn't expecting a letter. Thanks, Jared. Glad to hear things are going well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Aug 17 2008, 07:42 PM
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What would Jesus type? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,967 Joined: 3-June 07 From: Walez Member No.: 365,207 |
Thanks for explaining.
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Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM
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Not So Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,036 Joined: 9-March 08 From: Lisboa, Portugal Member No.: 373,273 |
Thank you so much for explaining, that is nice of you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Aug 17 2008, 07:44 PM
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feed me to the forest ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,187 Joined: 24-October 02 From: the great beyond Member No.: 179,546 |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:44 PM
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The bread factory is closed! No more bread to butter for you ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,309 Joined: 26-August 06 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 354,604 |
Wow wasnt expecting a reply.. Thanks so much for clearing this up Jared!
Glad to know whats finally going on |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:47 PM
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scientific and barbaric. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,318 Joined: 17-March 04 Member No.: 289,108 |
rock on, mofo's, rock on. with your fanbase, you could pull a trent reznor and say fuck a label, we'll sell this shit ourselves! and on a side note: to make up for all this trauma, you should throw us a bone. you know, a newsongsample kind of bone. or not. luvs!!!!!! |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:48 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Porirua, Wellington, New Zealand Member No.: 374,761 |
Awsome Jared! thanks a million, clears things up in a nut shell. provehito in altum.
keep strong guys, and cant wait for the next album! |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:49 PM
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Cheeky ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,363 Joined: 1-July 06 From: right here Member No.: 353,371 |
Thanks for this, Jared.
Happy to know that you guys are working and keeping high spirits and hope this glitch is sorted out quickly. I sort of wish this thread were locked, to avoid randomness. |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:49 PM
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What would Jesus type? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,967 Joined: 3-June 07 From: Walez Member No.: 365,207 |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:51 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Porirua, Wellington, New Zealand Member No.: 374,761 |
rock on, mofo's, rock on. with your fanbase, you could pull a trent reznor and say fuck a label, we'll sell this shit ourselves! and on a side note: to make up for all this trauma, you should throw us a bone. you know, a newsongsample kind of bone. or not. luvs!!!!!! bro no jared said that hes greatful to the company and doesnt want a conflict. so sayinf F U to the company just makes things worse. Jesus said..and im just giving an example. That you gotta love your enemies and neighbours alike. also forgive your enemies at what they have done to you. |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:51 PM
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ethereal ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,240 Joined: 25-May 06 From: Limbo Member No.: 352,635 |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:51 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 4-March 08 From: BRAZIL Member No.: 373,048 |
We would always do our best to avoid a fight, but sometimes it's important to stand up for what you believe in. We hope that by doing what's right we can help to change things for the better, for ourselves and possibly others. There are certainly more important things out there in the world to spend time and energy on. I totaly agree with you. Keep going for what you think it's right. Everything it's gonna be okay. ;] |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:51 PM
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Not So Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,036 Joined: 9-March 08 From: Lisboa, Portugal Member No.: 373,273 |
If you think the fact that we have sold in excess of 2 million records and have never been paid a penny is pretty unbelievable, well, so do we. And the fact that EMI informed us that not only aren't they going to pay us AT ALL but that we are still 1.4 million dollars in debt to them is even crazier. That the next record we make will be used to pay off that old supposed debt just makes you start wondering what is going on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) ps-have my babies! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:54 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,535 Joined: 26-May 05 From: Germany Member No.: 347,084 |
Thank you.
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Aug 17 2008, 07:54 PM
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Lilybelle Lufflecakes...#validbaby ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18,657 Joined: 20-October 05 From: Various places in Ontario, Canada. Member No.: 349,733 |
Oh god, a typo. I'm an awful person, I know. WHY DO I NOTICE THESE THINGS? Pssssssssssssst Mr. Perfectionist- 'break ever'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Or, at the very least, break ever? We think so. Anyway, after reading it over again, it's nice to see an honest, thought out response about this whole matter. While most of us figured there would be a gag order on it, it's refreshing to just see you calling it like it is, without being malicious or mudslinging or anything like that. Not that I think you would (it wouldn't be a bright move at the best of times) but I think the way you addressed it was bang on. Obviously there are a lot of things going on that we don't know behind the scenes, and that's the way it should be. As fans, it's not our right to be privy to any of this knowledge. So thanks for shedding some light on some of the issues you felt you were able to share. There's a sense of comfort in that, I think. |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:55 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Porirua, Wellington, New Zealand Member No.: 374,761 |
nice. I second that! Please have 2 of the goods on there. The "baby" song and SOH. C'mon! ps-have my babies! pss-hope you don't have to burn such cash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) man i cant wait till im famous. but as a fan i still treat celebs like they are human, not just go ap sh*t over the top yelling lol haha |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:55 PM
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my inner child is a mean little fuck ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,656 Joined: 22-June 06 From: Louisiana Member No.: 353,177 |
Thanks for that Jared.
Take care and have a great (albeit busy) summer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 17 2008, 07:55 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 604 Joined: 20-September 07 From: world Member No.: 367,197 |
thanks for clearing all this up, jared (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) lots of things there that (at least I) didn't know.
hope everything ends up well for the band, as the company seems to have been so unfair with them. most important part defo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) well, not really now, but very important indeed. |
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