[Jer]

1) Reading about it would require that someone actually reads what is given and we know from countless examples on this forum that no one does so.
2) Thinking about it would require more time than saying QFT after reading the first opinion anyone posts.
3) Discussion requires Jared Leto to be somehow related.

[k.c.]

O.K., I read the whole thing (scimmed a bit). I have read some of these stories before. I didn't know about the genocide in the congo but I am starting to think that every convenience or new technology or items of great value are only obtained through the misery of others. I think the problem is that instead of being self sufficient, where we gather and make our own, we so heavily depend on others and never think about where things come from. Does that make sense? The whole thing with th e genetically manufactured foods I have been reading about for years. When you go to a supermarket or a garden supply store (here in Canada) there are no laws that require the labelling of genetically modified food or seeds. My concern is that from everything I 've read 90% of the worlds food now comes from GM sources. Are there any seeds left from plants that weren't altered?
As for people being tortured during interrogations, I'm always surprised that this comes as a shock to anyone. When you ask people to kill and defend, go to war and witness the unimaginable, why are we then surprised when their humanity fades away. Without being in the situation, it is easy for others to simply be outraged. That being said, I wish mankind was just mentally and emotionally stronger. I wish that in anything but perfect circumstances people would not continually revert to worst. I am not outraged by their actions so much as I am outraged by war and that they were there in the first place.
I would comment on the rest but there was alot.

[Jer]

The genetically modified food is fucked up too, yeah. When you change the structure of the food you're eating you're basically changing what chemicals you're consuming as well. It makes me think about people that try to cook with splenda instead of actual sugar and see what fucked up results they get. There's a chemistry to cooking just like there's a chemistry to breaking down your food. Getting rid of a watermelon's seed has to be affecting something else as well. It's not like they can just change one gene and *poof* - seedless.

[k.c.]

You're right about the chemestry of food. Tea is really good for you, full of antioxidants and other stuff but as soon as you add milk to it, the chemistry changes and it's no longer good for you. Now scientists think they should just change the genetic structure of our food. Do you think they fed the new foods to a village in the mountains for a couple hundred years to see if it was o.k. or do you think we are that village?

Thanks Jer. I thought for sure you were right and no one could read and this thread would die with 4 posts.

[Jer]

I'm still right in that next to no one will read it. It just might get 4 more posts if we keep discussing it.

[k.c.]

If Art comes back we might even get up to 15 posts.

Jer, I think you should start a thread that teaches people to read and to care about things other than Jared. Explain how your brain needs exercise just like muscles.

[Jer]

Deluded people don't listen to logic. It's nice in theory but it's kind of like your patients that go and do shit when you tell them not to and explain why.

[k.c.]

Are you telling me there is no hope?

[summer1]

Ugh, now I feel guilty sitting here drinking my bottled water dammit.

[Jer]

It's not entirely hopeless Kim, you just have to rally some celebrities to get people to pay attention.

It's okay Summer, you'll forget about your bottled water tomorrow.

Oh, and I actually drink tap water. 'Cause I live in Michigan and it's clean.

[scinsocal]

I am offcially depressed.



I hate when I let life get in the way of knowledge. My fault. I had no idea that most of this was happening. We are selfish and greedy people.

[Jer]

Yeah, when there aren't dead bodies floating in the Detroit River.

Detroit River? I'd never drink water from that shit. Lakes or get the fuck out.

[dstonejr]

More often than not, the mainstream media cares about stories that sell, not real issues.

Thanks for the link.

[jmig]

More often than not, the mainstream media cares about stories that sell, not real issues.

Thanks for the link.

and the stories that sell are not always the true stories but what the government forces into the media to force into our minds...

the world is pretty sucky right now

[30SecondstoInsanity]

I did a paper on GMO (genetically modified organisms) and it scared the shit out of me. It may seem like a good idea now but it's going to fuck the future up something horrible. I'm happy I'll be dead in 70 years or so.

[JulesKD]

Some of these I've heard and followed, but holy christ, number five knocked me for a loop. I was clueless.

~~J

[ferro_man]

i plan on reading each section and posting a responce so there's another 25 replies to this thread at least