[RedRaven]

This came up in another thread. Someone said something about the artistry of musicians. Someone else said music wasn't art, only visual art. A couple people called each other morons. Then someone said GTFO and STFU and get a life.. and then someone started talking about sex. (Okay, so I embellished a lil bit. It's fun).

Anyway.. I think it's an interesting question and one that doesn't really have an exact answer, so it's cool to just see what peoples' opinions are. And I'm having a distinct lack of mental stimulation on these boards, so figured I'd start a nice debate and watch stuff fly around. Whee!

If anyone can actually post in this thread more than 3 times without calling anyone else an idiot, swearing ad nauseum, etc.. I'll.. uhm.. well... I'll like 'em alot (and give virtual kisses - haha)! Everyone knows you can't use naughty words when you are being a pompous intellectual. (So not true, hah, but I'm trying to encourage civilized discussion here... I know, it's a lost cause, but can't blame a girl for tryin').

Anyhow.. discuss away. I'll post my contribution here in a bit - I'm still pondering what I wanna say that won't be 8 pages long. (Yeah I'm longwinded sometimes *shrug*)

*encouraging smile*

RR

[Frances(serial kills)]

I THINK ART IS JUST SELF-EXPRESSION AND IT REVEALS A PERSON'S CREATIVITY. THAT MY OPINION AT LEAST. ART IS ALL AROUND US.

[Jer]

Art is whatever my gay ass dictates to be art. Oh, and it's also a nigra on this forum.

[RedRaven]

Okay think I've got my thoughts down to a semi-reasonable size, but I'm gonna have to post 'em tomorrow... Sorry, I know you are all refreshing this page over and over, waiting with baited breath to hear what I think. *smirk*

Today was my 2'nd day at a new job without nearly enough sleep for the past couple nights due to schedule changes, so I'm kinda bonkers and sleepy at the same time right now.

Promise to post soon though.

RR

[ChristineZ]

I THINK ART IS JUST SELF-EXPRESSION AND IT REVEALS A PERSON'S CREATIVITY. THAT MY OPINION AT LEAST. ART IS ALL AROUND US. ;)

I agee with Frances.
My take on it is, I think if One is able to go into that zone, if you will, and ignite their creative process at it's fullest potential, I think it enables an Atrist to become more than the sum of their parts.
It's powerful enough to move others in a major way if they can grasp and understand the concept.
Art in many forms moves people to new heights, sometimes powerful enough to make such an impact that it can change a persons life entirely.
Art in all forms, is not only a gift, but also a blessing.
It touches people in many different ways.
The suicidal, depressed, those who have completely given up and have hit rock bottom, people at a crossroads in life with no direction.
It can transform their train of thought and become the positive that has the potential to destroy the negatives. It's been very well known to happen, and it's happened to me.
It's also been documented through years of research.
Mostly through music which is a universal language and speaks volumes to those who can relate to the message no matter how it affects their lives. A relection, if you will.
I know it's happened more than once for me, and it also has made me very sad in some respects, but I rather stick with the positive.

I saw this painting in a Lab at a NYC Hospital where my mom had her Kidney Transplant.
Its a time period painting of a women just simply sitting in a chair near a window, reading and the sun is shining on her with this warm glow.
It's so relaxing to sook at.
Her hair up in a bun with ringlets around her face, long gorgeous gown flowing to her feet and resting on the floor around her chair.
The way her face is silhouetted with the light, it looks so warm and peaceful.
That painting makes me feel so calm and relaxed. Like there isn't a care in the world, only what's going on in the poetry book she is reading.
I love that painting.
Stuff like that speaks to me.
Home, quiet, taking in some much needed relaxation. It kind of makes me feel like everything's gonna be alright. I WANT THAT PAINTING.

I think everyone is an Artist in one form or another.
It can be not only a talent, but something as simple as how talking to someone in a way that really makes a difference to the listener.
It's Art to me when it moves me, when it says something to me, and has an impact on my world.
It's the best way I can describe it.
If it comes from the heart and soul, IT'S ART in it's truest form.
Life is Art "." ;)

[Frances(serial kills)]

I agee with Frances.
soul, IT'S ART in it's truest form.
Life is Art "."

whoot whoot.

[Rnb]

Life is art..

there should be no boundaries to it.

[TheMarsGeneral]

i need a raincheck for this, im to tired to anwer questions like this.

[Karim]

Skillful aesthetic expression.

Three words! Damn, I even surprise myself sometimes. Difficult question, please?

[swedish/match]

Skillful aesthetic expression.

True that, though I think that what we classify as art or a skillful aesthetic expression is a very arbitrary matter.

Things have meaning because we contribute meaning to them, different ideologies will interpret signs/work their semiotics in different ways. I believe that art requires some kind of meaning, if you can produce it [meaning] and people can recognize it, in whichever way, then it's a form of art.

Goes back to her rented, damp, amphetamine sheets smelling of bleach.

[swedish/match]

I just read about gutting and stuffing teddy bears full of dog shit as a homage to Dada.... where the fuck did I read that?

[Alexandros]

Skillful aesthetic expression.
Three words! Damn, I even surprise myself sometimes. Difficult question, please?

Ahahaha!!!


Art is, Mary's Buddha. He is lovely.

[phai85]

Art is, well... a Way of life, a way of feeling.
Art is having something in your inner side that you can't hide nor express in a traditional manner (like just keep your best-friend and tell him(her "I'm happy/ depressed...").
Art is when you watch out-side and you don't see all like the others, when you catch some hidden colours..
Artist is sometime lonly, sometime crazy, but ever different from the others.
Art is mostly unnoticed, 'cause it can't be only traditional e often people aren't able to recognize it.

[TheMarsGeneral]

LONG LIVE DADA!

LOVE IT! seen any good "Fountains" lately? I think someone should L.H.O.O.Q. this subject up?

-R.Mutt

the funny thing about dada is that it cant win. Unfortunately dada serves as something it is against and by producing it, it actually contradicts itself. Great idea for new art movement, horrible execution!

[TheMarsGeneral]

see Ive always understood it to be as an attempt to deconstruct art, That why i said it cant win because by using this medium, whatever it may be, its still an expression of what they feel, which according to the Bourgois (sp) is still art, ad so accordingly are only contradicting themselves, thats also why I included L.H.O.O.Q., and R.Mutt's "Fountain". But you see this is how i always kinda felt about art, at first i rejected the idea of "expression in art" although in all reality it is expression of some way shape or form, but having learned a little more about art, and hidden meanings throught the use of symbolism i have found that art truel is the a type of expression in a medium that a person can actually tell how they feel properly. Simlar to how deaf mute people cant actually "talk" to us through the use of spoken language, but with sign language we can actually see that they are no different, similar to artist, some may have an issue of getting their point across clearly, so they use art to fully show what they mean in a way that others can understand perfectly with =out having to ask "Can you say explain that for me", which kinda reminds me of a certain band, "If you dont understand, than it is not meant for you" or as some of you may know, and few of you should "YOU SHOULDNT EVEN BE HERE. ITS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS". Now i realize even further why i like this band.

[davida]

art is the bastard child of science and the deepest recesses of human consciousness