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#421 Aneczka

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:09 AM

Have to admit it's strange how some people do not pay attention for details. And listing Pukkelpop :blink: it was such a tragedy for some people.

OK most people wouldn't study the whole list, just look up the shows they attended but it must be not nice to find out that the cancelled show which you planned to go to is listed as well.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

I am all for them being proud of playing so many gigs, they've toured so extensively and given their all. What I totally do not dig is using wrong information (if they didn't play 300), hyping it up and then profiting from it extensively (all the Mars300 merch etc). You know, if they did it then fine, be proud of it etc. If they didn't do it, then it's kind of hypocritical the way they are milking it.

And yes, I was at Pukkelpop. They didn't play and it shouldn't be on that shirt. Was it cancelled due to circumstances out of their control? Yes, but still, they didn't play and shouldn't be on the Mars300 list.

#423 Aneczka

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:44 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that i've heard in like few interviews that NY show wasn't exactly no. 300 because they actually played over 300 shows /still can't tell if its reliable info/. So mabye somebody messed up the list while desining tee :huh:. Or mabye guiness uses diferrent definition of the word show - scheduled but not necessarily played

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I am all for them being proud of playing so many gigs, they've toured so extensively and given their all.
Agreed, no matter how many shows there was 297, 250, 304... it was something amazing and unforgettable :)

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:11 PM

Well Guiness had Paris 11/11/2009 wrong as they mentioned that in NYC (at the gig when they handed over the Guiness award) as the first concert played of this whole tour. That's wrong, it was Milan, then London and then Paris (which was rescheduled from originally being the first gig and then a week before being changed). Somebody is using a wrong list. For a "professional" business that the band is (and Guiness) these are amateur mistakes.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:17 PM

View PostAneczka, on 10 March 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that i've heard in like few interviews that NY show wasn't exactly no. 300 because they actually played over 300 shows /still can't tell if its reliable info/. So mabye somebody messed up the list while desining tee :huh:. Or mabye guiness uses diferrent definition of the word show - scheduled but not necessarily played


Agreed, no matter how many shows there was 297, 250, 304... it was something amazing and unforgettable :)
If my memory serves me,  in the VyRT show when the bloke of the WGR gave them the certificate said 308 shows...

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:06 PM

I had a look at those Mars300 dates that are on the tshirt:

These are the discrepancies I found:
11/11/2009 Paris, France WRONG DATE RESCHEDULED TO 18 NOV 2009
11/13/2009 Cologne, Germany WRONG DATE RESCHEDULED TO 22 NOV 2009
12/09/2009 Los Angeles, CA, US WHAT GIG IS THIS?
12/10/2009 Reno, NV, US RENO? DATE OF CONAN O'BRIAN TV SHOW
04/10/2010 Phoenix, AZ, US CANCELLED, RESCHEDULED TO 16 MAY 2010 (COUNTED DOUBLE)
05/22/2010 San Juan, Puerto Rico WRONG! THE GIG WAS 2011 NOT 2010 (COUNTED DOUBLE)
07/07/2010 Hultsfred, Sweden CANCELLED (BANKRUPT FESTIVAL)
10/02/2010 Des Moines, IA, US CANCELLED
02/21/2011 Los Angeles, CA, US WHAT GIG IS THIS?
02/28/2011 Sydney, Australia WHAT GIG IS THIS?
05/28/2011 Las Vegas, NV, US CANCELLED, RESCHEDULED TO 3 SEPT 2011 (& CANCELLED AGAIN)
06/25/2011 Raslog, Bulgaria CANCELLED FESTIVAL
07/19/2011 New York, NY, US WHAT GIG IS THIS?
08/18/2011 Hasselt, Belgium CANCELLED FESTIVAL
09/21/2011 Nagoya, Japan CANCELLED GIG

7 Cancelled gigs counted towards the 300 gigs
1 gig on there that is put in 2010 & 2011 while it only occured in 2011
4 gigs that I have no clue what they are
1 gig mentioned on the day of the Conan O'Brian show (stating Reno, NV while Conan was in LA)
2 gigs with wrong date (first two gigs in 2009)

Also several times either a 1 song TV performance was included in the list (really? That's counted as a whole gig?) and also some acoustic mini Radio shows are mentioned in the MARS300 list (while some other Radio performances aren't mentioned). Very odd...

These WE have on our list, but they don't appear on the MARS300 list:
12/12/09 UNIVERSAL CITY, CA (FESTIVAL) MISSING FESTIVAL?
01/23/10 PARK CITY, UTAH (4 SONGS) MISSING SNOWBOARD GIG
02/24/10 BOURNEMOUTH, UK MISSING GIG
03/02/10 THAT'S LIVE AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS MISSING RADIO SHOW (6 SONGS)
03/03/10 NRJ RADIO PARIS, FRANCE MISSING RADIO ACOUSTIC SHOW (FEW SONGS)
03/29/10 XFM RADIO LONDON, UK MISSING RADIO ACOUSTIC SHOW
06/24/10 1LIVE RADIO COLOGNE, GERMANY MISSING RADIO ACOUSTIC SHOW
11/03/10 GRAN TURISMO AWARDS LAS VEGAS, NEVADA PRIVATE GIG IN LAS VEGAS
11/09/10 TV TOTAAL WITH STEFAN RAAB COLOGNE, GERMANY TV PERFORMANCE (1 SONG)
01/31/11 THE NATIONAL RICHMOND, VA, USA MISSING GIG?
02/18/11 THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO LA, CA, USA TV PERFORMANCE (1 SONG)
03/02/11 30STM SECRET SHOW MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA MISSING SECRET MELBOURNE SHOW
05/03/11 METROPOLIS, MONTREAL, QC, CANADA MISSING GIG?
05/04/11 L'ASTRAL MONTREAL, QC, CANADA (MUSIQUE PLUS PRIVATE SHOW) MISSING GIG?

So that would be:

8 gigs
4 short Radio performances
2 TV performances (1 song)

We are missing the MTV Awards 2010 in Madrid Spain in our list btw, it's 11/07/10 (7 Nov 2010)

Basically it's one big clusterfuck, and the only way they reached 300 is if they count ALL radio performances and ALL 1 song TV shows. Otherwise, MARS300 is actually a MARS<300  :P

#427 laurahya

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:34 AM

View PostAneczka, on 10 March 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

Or mabye guiness uses diferrent definition of the word show - scheduled but not necessarily played
I can't see how that would be possible, otherwise you could get a world record for sitting on your ass. "Go, schedule, schedule, buuuut... I don't think we'll turn up."

Totally agree with you about Pukkelpop, too. Cancellations are one thing, but tragedies are another. And after the fuss t(he)y made about coming back to Belgium and Jared's spiel in Antwerp about how bad they felt. Hmm. :huh:

That said, I don't mean to detract from their achievement or our enjoyment of it. Seeing all the dates, not to mention locations, together in one place is absolutely mind-blowing. They really mustn't have slept the entire time.