alright...Am I the only one that sees a lot of similarities here? I don't know if anyone in the band likes them or claims to have any influences but I see a lot of similarities?
with that said...what does everyone think about stabbing westward? I personally love em.
Stabbing Westward 30stm
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 08:10 AM
QUOTE(7Corners @ Oct 3 2005, 08:03 AM)
There's more similarities between Stabbing Westward and NIN or Filter than there is to 30STM...but I know what you're getting at.
eh i kinda disagree with SW and NIN...they dont really sound similar in the fact that SW make constructed songs based around guitars and melodies (most of the time) and well NIN just kinda are poppy trancy dance mush, and their songs are based around the lyrics and trent...I like NIN dont get me wrong...but they are way too dance oriented then what people give them credit for. industrial? not quite...maybe mainstream dance industrial? filter is just a rip off of NIN until richie turned gay...then they kinda got away from the whole NIN thing.
but ya gotta remember SW, filter, and NIN were all big around the same time...so obviously the labels have something to say about that...because that was what was "IN" at the time. so thats the sound that sold records. so i can see where you relate them all together.
but to get more specific about my preceeding post--the construction of the songs are very similar...30stm and sw...the vocal arrangements...and melodies and the way they both sing soft at parts...then scream...its very similar. then the guitars are very stripped down in both bands. i dont know...does this make sense?
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 08:26 AM
Did you know that SW ripped off the main guitar riff in Filter's "Hey Man, Nice Shot"? I think the song is called Ungod...I know both songs came out around the same time, but I also know that HMNS was written well before Ungod was.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:08 AM
QUOTE(7Corners @ Oct 3 2005, 08:26 AM)
Did you know that SW ripped off the main guitar riff in Filter's "Hey Man, Nice Shot"? I think the song is called Ungod...I know both songs came out around the same time, but I also know that HMNS was written well before Ungod was.
HMMM thats kinda funny...
http://www.officialfilter.com/music.php short bus was released in 1995...
and...UNGOD was released 15th February 1994--UNGOD...
so maybe filter copied SW?
http://www.geocities.com/cyanidix/disc/ungod.htm
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:38 AM
I remember'd hearing about that, the Filter and SW song so I went and did a search to see what I'd find [bored yes, I am all the time] Here's what I found.
Anyway, I kind of pick up on the SW and 30 STM comparison, but like someone else mentioned I felt more of a comparison could be made between SW and NIN. [sorry if I'm being annoying with the abbreviations] It's too bad SW broke up I really liked their music. Though, the lead singer is back in a band called The Dreaming. They had a song on the Elektra soundtrack, very Stabbing Westwardish.
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Around 1993, when Stabbing Westward was recording Ungod, Stuart Zechman was playing guitar for both Filter and Stabbing Westward. For some reason he used the same guitar line for "Ungod" and "Hey Man Nice Shot". When both bands had been made aware of this, they made a decision for neither band to sue once the songs are released. By chance, "Hey Man Nice Shot" was released as the first single from Filter's _Short Bus_ album, and due to this fact Stabbing Westward has been reluctant to play "Ungod" in concert. They did in fact try to play the song live, but it reportedly didn't sound very good.
Anyway, I kind of pick up on the SW and 30 STM comparison, but like someone else mentioned I felt more of a comparison could be made between SW and NIN. [sorry if I'm being annoying with the abbreviations] It's too bad SW broke up I really liked their music. Though, the lead singer is back in a band called The Dreaming. They had a song on the Elektra soundtrack, very Stabbing Westwardish.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:42 AM
LOL look above at Booyas post. Good find. I gotta read through the entire thread...im trying to be hiding im in class 
BUT i thought i was the only once who noticed that eric!
I was thinking about this a week ago.
BUT i thought i was the only once who noticed that eric!
I was thinking about this a week ago.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:47 AM
QUOTE(Tomasz1 @ Oct 3 2005, 09:40 AM)
I'm a huge stabbing westward fan...and filter. Chicago industrial at its finest
Booya you're starting to get semi cool man.
Booya you're starting to get semi cool man.
semi-cool? ahh where have you been? i'm the coolest...(just kidding)
all i gotta say is stabbing westward was the shit! i love chris voice. i wish i could find a singer like that...sing so softly and scream like that! intense shit.
i dont care who ripped off who or whatever about those songs---cuz lets face it ---that happens ALL THE FUCKIN TIME! look at rage against the machine--know your enemy! they stole that riff from edgar winter i believe...I think the song was frankenstein...ahh holy hell i dont expect anyone to know that song. hahaha i could name tons of bands that ripped off songs. who cares.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:48 AM
QUOTE(Tomasz1 @ Oct 3 2005, 11:41 AM)
Eric that rippoff is the other way around bud!
Go check the dates of the songs
Stabbing westward relesed that cd and song an entire year earlier!
Go check the dates of the songs
Stabbing westward relesed that cd and song an entire year earlier!
I know...I said the release dates might differ, but I know that the songs were written around the same time. Kinda like how a lot of the stuff on 30STM new CD was written well before the release date of the CD
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:48 AM
Or music scene in chicago has hit the fan... its weird.
Have you checked out Chris' new project...the name is slipping from me The ____ .
Someone help me out, it sounds just like SW but not QUITE as good...nevertheless its still got his voical range and abilities in it.
Have you checked out Chris' new project...the name is slipping from me The ____ .
Someone help me out, it sounds just like SW but not QUITE as good...nevertheless its still got his voical range and abilities in it.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:49 AM
QUOTE(Tomasz1 @ Oct 3 2005, 09:44 AM)
Gotta bring back the chicago industrial sound...I'm trying my hardest!
well post some mp3s or something dude...please tell me its industrial though... most "industrial" isnt really industrial true industrial music owns!!
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:50 AM
I wanna wait booya...its got electornic recorded drums...the acoustic mixes are geting mixed down this week bro.
But its industiral...a mix of SW, gravity kills, nin (we have dance trancy songs) etc...
BUt yea we're trying to bring back industrial BACK to chicago... or any scene that is.
Its melodic industrialish music...its not crazy like KMFDM
But its industiral...a mix of SW, gravity kills, nin (we have dance trancy songs) etc...
BUt yea we're trying to bring back industrial BACK to chicago... or any scene that is.
Its melodic industrialish music...its not crazy like KMFDM
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:52 AM
QUOTE(Tomasz1 @ Oct 3 2005, 09:48 AM)
Or music scene in chicago has hit the fan... its weird.
Have you checked out Chris' new project...the name is slipping from me The ____ .
Someone help me out, it sounds just like SW but not QUITE as good...nevertheless its still got hsi voical range adn abilities in it.
Have you checked out Chris' new project...the name is slipping from me The ____ .
Someone help me out, it sounds just like SW but not QUITE as good...nevertheless its still got hsi voical range adn abilities in it.
I think you missed mARTIAN INVADERS POST...please read that post. very interesting.
