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coheed and cambria lets make one thing clear...

#1 User is offline   pedritti 

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:24 PM

these guys are great musicians...you may not like the vocalists voice...but that doesnt mean these guys are bad musicians...they play those instruments like no one else...they are great...and if you think not then you understand very little of music...

this is not a matter of opinion...there are bands that i dont like but i can still admit they play very well....


but this is not the case...i love these guys cause they are such good musicians and they are so fresh...they dont sound like everything else...plus i like their vocalists sound...its different and i know that this means they will never be super succesful but i dont care...


so i would like to ask to anyone who has heard the new album....

what do you think?

from what ive heard so far it sounds awesome....

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:26 PM

good musicians yes, vocalist is sometimes good, but he ALWAYS sings like that, he has no transition.. so eh.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE(pedritti @ Sep 24 2005, 07:24 AM)
these guys are great musicians...you may not like the vocalists voice...but that doesnt mean these guys are bad musicians...they play those instruments like no one else...they are great...and if you think not then you understand very little of music...

this is not a matter of opinion...there are bands that i dont like but i can still admit they play very well....
but this is not the case...i love these guys cause they are such good musicians and they are so fresh...they dont sound like everything else...plus i like their vocalists sound...its different and i know that this means they will never be super succesful but i dont care...
so i would like to ask to anyone who has heard the new album....

what do you think?

from what ive heard so far it sounds awesome....



do I hear the term, 'elitist' used?

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:28 PM

The new album is QUITE good.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE(astoria @ Sep 23 2005, 09:27 PM)
do I hear the term, 'elitist' used?



nope.....

it is just the truth...


look i HATE christina aguillera but i have to admit she can sing...


its the same here...

you may hate coheed and cambria but if you appreciate and understand music,you will know that these guys are good....

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 03:12 PM

He is right...

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 03:52 PM

Hm, I feel that way about quite a few bands.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 04:41 PM

The vocalist's singing voice can go to hell and never return. But I like everything else.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE(cloud041089 @ Sep 23 2005, 04:41 PM)
The vocalist's singing voice can go to hell and never return. But I like everything else.

I agree he sounds like he has his nuts being squeezed and is screaming like a girl

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE(Oni @ Sep 23 2005, 11:46 PM)
I agree he sounds like he has his nuts being squeezed  and is screaming like a girl



but they still kick ass!

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 05:33 PM

Hey Rush managed pretty good success with a high voiced lead singer...just saying lol.

Anyway I really like the new CD too. Welcome Home is a really good song even if the main riff is a bit of a "kashmir" rip off.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:54 PM

coheed rules.. the singers voice is awesome.
i wish thrice and coheed would tour again.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE(ausylo @ Sep 23 2005, 02:26 PM)
good musicians yes, vocalist is sometimes good, but he ALWAYS sings like that, he has no transition.. so eh.


Not too many vocalists diverge from what they normally do. Whatever key(s) suits your voice best is usually where the vocalist will stay at.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:17 PM

The singer needs a haircut BADLY! A stylist wouldn't hurt either.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:20 PM

I thought the music was good too, until I realized the entire cd is one song played on a loop.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 01:44 AM

I like Coheed and Cambria a lot. Very different. But you wanna talk good bands? Atreyu and Strung out, now those are some hard motherfuckin bands.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:15 AM

uh maybe i just haven't listened enough but they are not very good musicians. they're not bad... but come on. "good" is putting it strongly/ignorantly. "good" is prog rock/technical death/jazz/classical/etc. ... not power chords in catchy phrasing.

also: atreyu? strung out? hard? right. dumbass.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:20 AM

QUOTE(Nergal @ Sep 24 2005, 04:15 AM)
uh maybe i just haven't listened enough but they are not very good musicians.  they're not bad... but come on.  "good" is putting it strongly/ignorantly.  "good" is prog rock/technical death/jazz/classical/etc. ... not power chords in catchy phrasing.

also: atreyu? strung out? hard? right.  dumbass.



You haven't listened enough. Additionally, being a good musician doesn't require one to have insane technical skills (although Coheed definately tends to be a little self-indulgant at times with their technical skills). If you've only heard a Favor House Atlantic, Devil In Jersey City, Welcome Home, and Blood-Red Summer then I can understand why you'd think the way you do. One could make the arguement that good music means a good melody...which would make just about all death metal not "good" music. Coheed has a great balance between technical stuff (including both technical rhythms AND song-structuring), melody, harmony, and variation in intensity. This balance is what makes them such good musicians.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE(7Corners @ Sep 24 2005, 01:20 AM)
You haven't listened enough.  Additionally, being a good musician doesn't require one to have insane technical skills (although Coheed definately tends to be a little self-indulgant at times with their technical skills).  If you've only heard a Favor House Atlantic, Devil In Jersey City, Welcome Home, and Blood-Red Summer then I can understand why you'd think the way you do.  One could make the arguement that good music means a good melody...which would make just about all death metal not "good" music.  Coheed has a great balance between technical stuff (including both technical rhythms AND song-structuring), melody, harmony, and variation in intensity.  This balance is what makes them such good musicians.


I've heard between 3 and 5 songs of theirs. in my experience if a band can't get it done in that many songs, then they can't get er done! but tell you what, i'll download a few songs and get back to you ... because I'm not going to do it all right now, and I won't be here for the next few days.

p.s. i never said that being a good musician required insane technical skill... i did say it requires more than catchy phrasing. also i don't know about your understanding of the term 'melody' but saying death metal (most) has no melody is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard in my life. you lose 50 points for your argument right there, son.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:29 AM

Part of what I like about (good) death metal is the usage of great melody.

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