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Business and 30 Seconds To Mars

Sun, 20 May 2012 15:12:16 +0000

After reading several topics and posts that have been emerging for quite a while, I thought it might be interesting to make a topic about business and the band where everyone can expose their own reflection and perception of this evolution as it is now in a broader context.

Putting aside what I feel to be objective, my first thought is that we can't forget a fact: music is also a job for 30stm. Once the record is made and the creative process is achieved, whether we want it or not, it also becomes a product along with a marketing and strategic process.
And yes, it includes choices of terms such as "family" and "echelon� (don't believe it has always been so for the latter though) a good strategy to make people think they are special which would eventually make faithful fans out of people in search of community and an easier target to buy any product.

Even so, should we bear a grudge against the band? After all, this is their job and being involved in an artistic field, doesn't imply that people don't want to make money out of it. Especially when success is knocking at the door. And what about the fans? Aren't they responsible too? There are quite many people that for instance asked about the GT's in Europe when it didn't exist yet, and I understood that as many are more than satisfied with the content of the unplugged. (I won't lie, I'm part of the people who bought it but yes, next time I'll be less impulsive and will wait to see what the content is about )
If a lot of people want it this way and are willing to pay $$$, why wouldn't the band act accordingly?

For sure, a few among us saw the GT's as a kind of a disaster in the marsmen evolution but considering the prices and how many people bought them for each dates, the band actually found the cave of Sesame.
The same for the spamming on Twitter for merchandising, VyRT etc� Considering the few people that are annoyed compare to the many that want to take a "chance" to be RT, the result in sales are certainly closely tied.

Yes, I can already hear "This is not what they used to be, it used to be much better and authentic because�" Well the band like anybody else (hope so!) evolves, things change. Changes are either welcomed or rejected, this is how it works, and success don't come along with only good things. With their celebrity rising which most of us actually also"work for", the communication with people and their expectancies had to evolve and to inevitably damage some important aspects of this band.

In the end, this is all about choices, their choices.
What they decide to sacrifice (or not) for business purposes and what they don't want to loose.
If there is a new adventure, the questions are: Will we still enjoy it with the industry choices and sacrifices they would make? Will their new creative aspects and performances will still give us the thrill within all that type of marketing process?
If yes, does all this business side really matter eventually? If with a twinge of sadness, we still have great time, nothing forces us to adhere to the �dollar system� in its totality.
If not, we will keep old good memories and move on... Or � I suspect that some would stick around criticizing in a big way almost everything lol! But that's another debate

Jared`s blog - discuss

Sun, 20 May 2012 12:01:27 +0000

Jared`s blog at jaredleto.com - discuss. No, I don`t mean tell everyone how hot he is, I mean post stuff related to his blog, especially the photos he posts there.

There`s no need to analyse why he posts what he posts on his blog(although in certain circumstances a brief analysis might accidentally happen, which is ok).

This is the place where you can respond to his posts with your own pictures (whether you found them on the internet or took them yourself), your own ideas, points of view and creativity is welcome - anything that relates to Jared`s photos.

This is your canvas, now paint the picture, or in AmanitaVirosa`s words:
"Like squatters in an abandoned store front. We'll cover the place in our own brand of internet graffiti like it was a burned out downtown city street."

Side note: this thread is the child of AmanitaVirosa`s and mine and boy have we been busy conceiving it (he donated the idea, I was pregnant with it for awhile and eventually gave birth to it here). Help us make it into an adult

I`ll start with this one:

http://jaredleto.com/thisiswhoireallyam/2011/09/22/notes-from-the-outernet-photos-chinese-architecture/

`Chinese architecture`

http://jaredleto.com/thisiswhoireallyam/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/0911chinesearchitecture1.jpg

http://jaredleto.com/thisiswhoireallyam/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/0911chinesearchitecture2.jpg

This instantly reminded me of a building in London, which looks similar:

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_460/1260734301HjA23e.jpg

Taken from a different angle (nice `triad`, huh?):

http://www.markbetonphotography.com/UK/LONDON/South-Bank-London-2008-9/bormk-30/953342847_jJVVh-L.jpg

It`s always been one of my favourite buildings in London and it`s situated on the south-east `corner` of London Bridge.

YEAR BOOK

Sat, 19 May 2012 07:36:49 +0000

i think there should coz the first one was awesome

Self Titled Appreciation Thread

Fri, 18 May 2012 08:06:29 +0000

Appreciate away, folks.

Official Merch Thread

Thu, 17 May 2012 22:32:54 +0000

No joke! I really want to be greedy and keep it to myself...but hey! Why not share....

Check it out! merch

Now I just gotta get some money...

-Gina-

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08/05/11: Note from Moderator: Here is a size chart courtesy of @MARSstore:

http://www.bella.com/images/pages/item/sizingcharts/ladiessizechart.jpg

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VyRT or death?

Thu, 17 May 2012 09:39:01 +0000

I've noticed there is not topic about the VyRT thing yet... it's bad since this is the only new thing in the Mars Universe since the end of the tour.

And I have a lot of things to say and questions about that...

In the first place, I have to say that the VyRT idea was great. I mean, for the MARS300 it was the opportunity to share this last concert all together and it was great despite the fact that it was too expensive... (almost 15$ to watch a concert on my laptop? seriously? I didn't pay a lot more when I saw the band in live for the first time!^^)

But now what's about MARSUnplugged ? oO

1) Not that I don't appreciate the work that has been done by the band + edit staff! I know it's a lot of work to put these things together and all. But there's something that I don't get: how can you justify the price?
From what I've seen, the only difference between what MTV already put on their website and this VyRT thing, it's 2min of backstages and barely half of Alibi. Correct me if I'm wrong...
Oh and... where's CTTE?

I'm not against this VyRT, because it can be a good alternative solution for a lot of people.
I just don't get how 30STM uses it... I wish I could say that it's not about money. But lately, and with the directions that the band has taken, I really am wondering...

What do you think?

2) What do you think VyRT means for the future and how 30STM delivers its content to us?
Are they going to "offer" Artifact + the Tour's DVD in the same format?

What can we expect?